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---++++ *Minutes BWS Upgrade: Electro-Mechanical Design Meeting #12* *-- 13th July 2016 --* *Participants:* Raymond Veness, Bernd Dehning, Federico Roncarolo, Jonathan Emery, Patrik Andersson, Jose Luis Sirvent *Agenda ( [[https://indico.cern.ch/event/543918/][ <span data-mce-mark="1">https://indico.cern.ch/event/543918/</span>]])* <span>%TOC{ style="line-height: 200%;"}%</span> ---++++ 1. Communications (R.Veness) * PSB ECR already launched and progressing on the aproval * *%RED%Forks 2-3 units are out of tolerances%ENDCOLOR%*. The work has to be redone, which would delay the pieces availability to end of August. * For mounting test (on august) 1 of these fork will be modiffied to fix the tolerances with some bricolage. * The error comes from a perpendicularity deviation Shaft-Fork. * The assembly test will be performed in August and the device plans to be available for functional testing on September. ---++++ 2. Alxion Standard and Special Motor testing (J. Emery) * Tested Alxion Standard and Special version with modiffied airgap (300V) * %RED% *Back-EMF normal version: Show nice results and 1% deviation respect to specs* %ENDCOLOR% * %RED% *Back-EMF special version: Show also nice reults with 4% deviation respect to "estimated" specs.* %ENDCOLOR% * Not clear if special version was tested by Alxion before procuring specifications or they approximated by calculations * Speed and profiles tests with Special Alxion show satisfactory results with Dspace, calculated torke ~ real required torke * %RED% *Problem found after motor testing:* %ENDCOLOR% * Appeared after the week-end (test finished Friday, problem appeared Monday) * Motor generates a extrange noise even when not moving and holding position * Effect is not symetrical, appears in In & Out Scans but seems stronger in Out scans. * Currently trying to work out the reason: * During movement the currents are showing a extrange behaviour * Motor dismounted, visual inspection (Dmitry) show no frictions * Isolation on phases seems not to be the problem, tests show that they're ok. * Cross-Check wiht Parker motor--> No problem seen * Test with older compiled code --> Problem still seen * Generator Mode --> the output voltages are Ok * Next steps: * Try standar Alxion * Try another Alxion stator 300v * try standar rotor. * For the moment the reason still unclear. ---++++ 3. PSB Acquisition system: Intallation proposal (J.L. Sirvent) * %RED% *Installation requirements: 1 Functional system (PSB standard) + 1 Test flexible test platform (Independent systems)* %ENDCOLOR% * Base line is %RED% *acquisition on surface* %ENDCOLOR%, both options send their analog signals to surface * In PSB short cables & long bunches --> Fine for BW point of view (bunch pile-up) * Gain in noise reduction << Risk of failure of acquisition Front-End for radiation exposure * In any case allow installation of a Front-End for testing pourposes * The idea is to procure a operational (PSB) system 100% available for functional validation * Allow space & cabling flexibility to test different scintillator + photo-detector configurations * Standard Cylindrical 30x30mm * New Rectangular 100x100x10mm * MaPMT, HPD, Filterweels * Space reservation for 1 Front-End * 3 Set-up Configuratoins show using the same cabling requirements. * High dynamic range acquisition system (no required filter / pmt gain tuning) * Strategy 1. HPD + QIE10/12 (1e5) * Stregety 2. MaPMT + ICECAL (1e5) * Stragety 3. MaPMT + 2 x QIE10/12 (1e7?) * %RED% *New mechanics required to procure for both assembies:* %ENDCOLOR% * FilterWeels * PMT/MaPMT/HPD shielding * Scintillator/Waveghides holder * Supports * %RED% *All these details are not included on ECR* %ENDCOLOR% * <span data-mce-mark="1" style="background-color: transparent;">%RED% *Studies on PSB needed* %ENDCOLOR% to:</span> * <span data-mce-mark="1" style="background-color: transparent;">Estimate required dynamic range on PSB</span> * Adjust acquisition systems working point * Cross-Check PSB simulations * Check possible improvements by changing Scintillator Geometry * Check Light yields on scintillator per impacting proton on wire (for different energies/intensities) * Proposed ways to proceed: * Trust on simulations ? Check with Roberto Rocca. * Estimate light yield trough measurements stored on measurements DB * Prepare measurement campaign new systems when installed. ---++++ 4. Comments from Dundee Visit (R.Veness) * Some issues were identiffied thanks to the visit * *Residual material* observed on measurements: * It reduced the reflectivity on some disk areas * %RED%Comes from some abrasive liquid used for finishing the laser slits.%ENDCOLOR% * *Smooth transition* Reflective/Non Reflective * Such smotth transition did not allow enought "flat" reflective area between slits * Sample and laser are in a fix position, Laser scans the disk by angular movements * %RED%Laser loses focal point, which produces wider slits%ENDCOLOR% * For Dundee Equipment, 20 um width slits was already on the limit (we asked for 10um slits) * The fabrication of full size disk would produce worst slits due to equipment configuration * *%RED%Dundee required XY Stage + Controller system (and maybe new laser) to produce high quality slits.%ENDCOLOR%* * Estimated Cost > 10KCHF * In collaboration with other sections and other uses foreseen, if required cost may be splitted by 3. * Jose's remarks: * With commercial company we reach the results required for the slits. * Does it worth it? we'd need a guarantee that this new equipment would produce better slits than commercial. * In any case, the sensor weak point is the surface quality (roughness, defects, reflectivity) * Instead of spending time/money in building very spensive disk it may worth it to improve the sensor robustness with some minor mofifications for metallic disks usage (more scaning dots / different configuration).
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