WLCG-OSG-EGEE Ops' Minutes Mon 23 Jun 2008



  • Asia Pacific ROC: Min
  • Central Europe ROC: Malgorzata
  • OCC / CERN ROC: John Shade, Nick Thackray, Steve Traylen
  • French ROC:
  • German/Swiss ROC: Clemens Koerdt
  • Italian ROC:
  • Northern Europe ROC:
  • Russian ROC: Lev, Victor
  • South East Europe ROC: Kostas Koumantaros
  • South West Europe ROC: Kai, Gonzalo
  • UK/Ireland ROC: Jeremy
  • GGUS: Torsten
  • OSCT: project-egee-osct@cernNOSPAMPLEASE.ch


  • WLCG Service Cordination: Harry Renshall, Flavia
  • LHCb: RobertoSantenelli.
  • ATLAS: Alessando

WLCG Tier 1 Sites

  • ASGC: Min
  • BNL:
  • CERN site: Miguel
  • FNAL:
  • FZK:
  • IN2P3:
  • INFN:
  • NDGF:
  • PIC: Gonzalo
  • RAL: Catalin , Matt

Reports Not Received

  • VOs: ATLAS; Alice; CMS
  • EGEE ROCs (Prod Sites): South West Europe

Feedback on Last Week's Minutes

None were given.

EGEE Items

Grid Operator Hand Over on Duty

  Primary Team Secondary Team

  • GGUS:34400 ticket . Being worked on, held up by new hardware and new deployment techniques. Create action item.

Assigned to Due date Description State Closed Notify  
Main.SAM 2008-06-30 Upgrade lcg-utils on SAM submission host.

Latest version of lcg_utils installed in SAM validation testbed & used against this site.
Previous version failed with: protocol not supported by Storage Element
Latest version fails with: CGSI-gSOAP: Error reading token data header: Connection reset by peer

Problem seems to be with the data that the site provides to the Information System.

2008-07-08 edit

PPS Reports

EGEE Items From ROC Reports

  • TAU-LCG2 is now closed, due to poor site administration and availability.
  • Item 2

WLCG Items

WLCG issues coming from ROC reports

* Item 1

Upcoming WLCG Service Interventions

* Item 1

ATLAS Service

Create action item on extra field in GOCDB.
Assigned to Due date Description State Closed Notify  
SteveTraylen 2008-06-30 Submit somewhere request for better downtime publishing as proposed by atlas sometime ago.

*Update 1st July* https://savannah.cern.ch/support/?104871 now submitted.


2008-07-08 edit
the request for better downtime.

Atlas view of downtimes: http://dashb-atlas-data-tier0.cern.ch/dashboard/request.py/site?statsInterval=4 click e.g. on the link LYON, it will open a list of sites. there are few of light gray, like IN2P3-CC_DATADISK. The last column is an ok/down colored green/red. clik there, and you'll have this. note that also the downtime is clickable and redirect you to the gocdb.

ALICE Service


CMS Service


LHCb Service

LHCb is running its DC06 activity at full regime. Stripping activity pointed out issues at RAL (still jobs cannot get there after the incident with the CMS rogue user killing the system with 10K jobs at once), IN2p3 (data access problem with gsidcap, Philippe sent all information through the GGUS ticket open for debugging their SRM/SE system), CNAF is in downtime, SARA: failures uploading output data.

  • CIC broadcast information: received one for IN2p3, reason: queues drained (which is not very useful and informative) and one for GRIF: scheduled intervention, reason: unexpected hardware failure (but how can then be the intervention scheduled?).
  • LHCb asked about VOMS roles use within GGUS. Maria reported previously GGUS was flat but no longer the case. There is a savannah ticket. https://savannah.cern.ch/support/?103378.

WLCG Service Coordination

agenda contains details of base line storage services.

OSG Items

GGUS:36261 opened on the 8th May. Comment is in the internal diary, now very delayed. No response so far. Within EGEE ROCs sites that do not respond at all in 21 days will be removed.. this is being considered at the moment. Maybe can be considered for OSG as well. Will be followed up.

Action Items

Newly Created Action Items

Review of Open Action Items

CERN_ROC to follow up with last two US sites.
Was discussed at COD Meeting. Being tracked elsewhere. Linked for WLCG MWG.
UK Not present.
Lithuania - Northern ROC not present.
Close now, this has been investigated and a technical solution has been tested.


Query from CERN as to why a scheduled intervention till 11:00 showed in GridView until 13:00. Please submit GGUS ticket.

Open Action Items

IdSubmitterDescriptionCreationDueAssigned To 

Actions Closed in Last 20 Days

IdSubmitterDescriptionCreationDueAssigned ToClosed 

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  • TAU-LCG2 site in Israel was closed.
  • LHCb asked about the use of VOMS roles with in GGUS which is now being followed up.

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