WLCG-OSG-EGEE Ops' Minutes Tue 11 Nov 2008


Northern European (NE) site ITPA must be suspended. ROC_NE will do this. GGUS ticket escalation should be done to Maria Dimou as User Support Advisory Group (USAG) chairperson.



  • Asia Pacific ROC:
  • Central Europe ROC: Malgorzata Krakowian
  • OCC / CERN ROC: John Shade, Antonio Retico, Nick Thackray (Chair), Steve Traylen, Maria Dimou (minutes), Diana Bosio, John White, Andreas Unterkircher
  • French ROC: Cyril l'Orphelin
  • German/Swiss ROC: Angela Poschlad (FZK), Wen Mei (GridKA)
  • Italian ROC:
  • Northern Europe ROC: Vera Hansper
  • Russian ROC: Lev Shamardin, Victor Edneral
  • South East Europe ROC: Ioannis Liabotis
  • South West Europe ROC: Kai Neuffer
  • UK/Ireland ROC: Jeremy Coles (ROC UKI), Gareth Smith (RAL), Derek Ross (COD UKI), Gilles Mathieu (GOCDB).
  • GGUS: Guenter Grein


  • WLCG Service Cordination:

WLCG Tier 1 Sites

  • ASGC:
  • BNL: Absent
  • CERN site:
  • FNAL:
  • FZK:
  • IN2P3:
  • INFN:
  • NDGF:
  • PIC:
  • RAL: Derek Ross
  • OSG: Tim Silvers, Kyle

LHC Experiments

  • ATLAS: Alessandro di Girolamo
  • LHCb: Roberto Santinelli
  • CMS: absent
  • ALICE: absent

Reports Not Received

  • VOs:
  • EGEE ROCs (Prod Sites):

Feedback on Last Week's Minutes

None was given.

EGEE Items

Grid Operator Hand Over on Duty

  Primary Team Secondary Team
From ROC Italy ROC France
To ROC Russia ROC UK/I

  • ROC_IT is asking ROC_CERN to chase the Beijing site (To be done by Diana; GGUS:40700).
  • ROC_Russia suspended the site requested by ROC_FR (GGUS:40521).
  • ROC_FR is asking Nick to chase the suspension of site ITPA-LCG2 (To be done by ROC_NE; GGUS:42015).

PPS Reports

  • CERN has SLC5 experimental setup accessible via CE110 in PPS BDII.
  • PPS gLite U38 has patches scheduled for Prod (U35) on Thursday. New version of VOMS & various other stuff.

EGEE Items From ROC Reports

  • ROC_SEE: serious deployment problem for 64-bit WNs, missing x86_64 RPMs and mix-up of executables and libraries for 32-bit and 64-bit architectures (GGUS:43216). Due to this problem we had to take manual steps to resolve the issue and were failing SAM tests for several days, which will affect our availability. The error message was very misleading. Andreas said that a proper solution will take a while (requires repackaging). BUG:40734 and BUG:33616 suggest to install the 64-bit RPM over the 32-bit one. Data Management and VDT are independently working on fixes.
  • ROC_SWE: IFIC-LCG2 site still not showing sBDII test results GGUS:43353. John will investigate [problem fixed by David Collados the same day, and availability recalculated for impacted sites].

gLite Release News

WLCG Items

WLCG issues coming from ROC reports

* RAL batch farm occupancy by LHC VOs is down. Other Tier1s/ROCs should send feedback to RAL/Nick. Alessandro said that ATLAS had reduced Grid activity due to internal reasons and the accelerator stoppage. GridKa don’t have huge occupancy. Roberto LHCb objects: there are periods where activity to Tier1 is light. Derek: relative occupancy per Tier1 is problem, not total activity. RAL just wants to check that they’re not being left out.

Upcoming WLCG Service Interventions

ATLAS Service

ALICE Service

  • Encourages all Alice tier-1 sites to install a CREAM CE.

CMS Service

LHCb Service

WLCG Service Coordination

OSG Items

  • GGUS:42490 was long solved but not closed. Done after the meeting.

Action Items

Newly Created Action Items

Assigned to Due date Description State Closed Notify  
DianaBosio 2008-12-08 Follow-up with Beijing site as per GGUS:40700 2008-11-19 SteveTraylen   edit
Main.ROC_NE 2008-12-08 Suspend ITPA site as per GGUS:42015.

*Update 17th November*, site has now responded.
North East ROC to respond next week.

*Update 27th November*, site has now corrected the problem, closing this.

2008-11-27 edit

Assigned to Due date Description State Closed Notify  
MariaDimou 2008-12-08 Follow-up escalation as per GGUS:42981. LCG CE update 33: thousands of defunct globus-gma 2008-11-19 edit
MariaDimou 2008-12-08 Follow-up escalation as per GGUS:42999. WMS 3.1 update 34: ISM stops working 2008-11-19 edit

Review of Open Action Items

Open Action Items

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Actions Closed in Last 20 Days

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