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EHealth Mini ES-EC808 Mb16
http://www.intermag.ru/info/67672.html?partner=YaTovari
580rur (incl. 10 cartridges)
1 cartr ~ 120 zatyazh. ~ 10 cig.

http://flavourartexpress.ru/zapravka-kartridzhej-elektronnyh-sigaret.html
zapravka: 1cart = 10 drops = ? .5ml ?

http://flavourartexpress.ru/zhidkost-dlja-zapravki-jelektronnyh-sigaret-iCigarette.ru-eLiquid.html :
0001 iCigarette.ru eLiquid Flavoured
cena:

99+100=200rur 10ml 24mg/ml => 1ml = 20rur
99+790=900rur 100ml 24mg/ml => 1ml = 9rur
if 1ml (24mg) -> 20 cig then 1 cig -> 1.2mg (cf: NashaPrima: 0.7mg/cig)

18mg/ml:

10ml 99+80 = 180
100ml 99+670 = 770

12mg/ml:

10ml 99+60 = 160
100ml 99+530 = 630

Lucky-Smoker (radiorynok Caricyno) from http://www.ecigtalk.ru/forum/f20/t1590.html

  • No Flavor Juice From Heaven Gifts 36mg 30ml PG (osnova) 300rur -- what is it?
  • Nikotinovaya osnova (East Mall)30ml PG 60mg 400rur -- what is it?
  • Zhidkost' bez nikotina LuckySmoker
    • 15ml - 100rur
    • 30ml - 200rur

http://netvreda.ru/catalogue/cigarette/cartridge/50-zhidkost-dlya-zapravki-yelektronnyx-sigaret-i.html :

  • 4 dec 2009 15:13
    Flakona 15ml hvataet na zapravku ~100 kartridzhej (??)
  • 5 nov 2009 13:37
    1 cartr = from 5 to 15 cig depending on the model
    Eg:
    Imperium 4072/5 15 cig
    others : 5-7

http://www.electro-dym.ru/articles/articles_13.html
Skol'ko cartr. zamenyaet zhidkost'?

  • "teor" raschet: zapravka = 2-3 kapli => ... => 10ml = 100 zapravok

google: e-cigarette and planes

pons:

"Vot, vstupilas' za elektronnoe kurenie"
http://ru-ecig.livejournal.com/396592.html

wiki enciclopedia

e-cig - kak rabotaet?, kakuyu vybrat'?

Ulmart: mob.tel,port.technika -> e-cig:

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Li-Ion accus

Zaschita Li-Ion accumulyatorov

Models

Chargers

  • >300 chargers @ dealextreme
  • Chargers with output of < 450 mA should not be considered -- too slow
  • native screwdriver charger has output of 4.2 V (and 450 mA)

Chargers of Li-Ion Batteries

  • UltraFire 3.6/3.7V Battery Charger WF-139 (DealEstreme, $11.72)
    • CR123A*, 18650, 14500, CR2*, 18500, 17670, 17500
    • Output: 4.2V @ 450mA
    • a spacer is required to charge CR123A/CR2 ( and 18350 ?)
    • Charge single or two batteries at a time
    • Two separate charging channels - batteries can be mix-charged
  • OEM 2*18650 Lithium Battery Charger (dealextreme, $6.50 )
    • Model XXC-4.2V1A -- very similar (clone?) to the XXC-042V1000A below
    • EU plug
    • From review(s):
      • protected bateries fit nicely, you can charge one battery which is perfect
      • stops charging when bateries reach 4.19v so it does it job perfectly
      • It charges 18650 LiFePO4 batteries perfectly to exactly the right charge and then keeps them charged for as long as they are left in the charger
      • The two charge channels are separate, each charges at 1A constant current rate when battery terminal voltage in channel 1 is less than 2.8V, and 4.0V in Channel 2. When placing the charger upright with the LED's at the bottom, the left position I called channel 1, and the other ch2 arbitrarily.
        Above this threshold, the charger behaves like a constant voltage sources of 4.236V throught a limiting resistor of 1.1 ohm in channel 1, and 2.0 ohm in channel 2.
        Channel 1 starts charging at 0.0V (1A+), and Ch2 not until above 0.6V.
        One special use for me is to combine both ch1 and ch2 to become a 2A charger for large Li-On cell.
        It is weird to have two channel separate but different. Can't tell whether it is a faulty design or a feature.
        Cons:
        • The charger does not cut off after reaching 4.22 Volt. I suggested a AC timer be used to cut off power after say 2 hrs. or 30 minutes after the lighs goes green, if remove them.
        • Avoid using it to charge other size battery. The rest are of smaller capacities and may be damaged.
      • Leaving the Li-ion in the charger after it turns green will increase the voltage to about 4.24v. Might be a bit scary.
  • Digital Li-Ion 18650 Battery Charger (US plug) (dealextreme, $7.27)
    • Model HXY-042V2000A -- one more clone? but with doubled current?
    • Output: 4.2V, 1A*2
    • From review(s):
      • The charger has independent channels. You can charge a single cell or two cells at the same time. Each cell can finish charging independently of the other. The LED on the charger is GREEN when plugged in (and without any cells). It turns red when a discharged cell is inserted and turns back to green again when it finishes charging
      • ...I have never tested a battery off of this charger that measured more than 4.21V, so it terminates correctly too. It tapers slowly, so as the 4.2V point is reached, it really slows down. At the beginning with the battery at 3.6V I measured a 850mA charge rate, but at 4V, it was 270mA. At 4.16V it was down to 80mA. ...
  • 27.08.2010 13:14 gudman : rekomendaciya vmesto rodnogo zaryadnika otvertki ispol'zovat' XXC-042V1000A za 400 RUR -- sozvonit'sya s Vladislavom
    dlya 18350 nuzny prostavki, oni idut v komplekte
  • TrustFire TR-001 Multi-Purpose Lithium Battery Charger (dealextreme, $8.63)
    • DC Charge Rate: 4.2V 500mA
    • Charges batteries 10430, 10440, 14500, 16340, 17670, 18500, 18650,and other similarly sized batteries.
    • The models is sold by FatCat family for 500 RUR
    • US plug
    • From reviews:
      • two channels so an individual battery can be charged
      • LED lights to determine charging status
      • LED system can be a bit confusing but as I understand it green means charging and red means not charging
      • I used it to charge some new protected 18650s, some new unprotected 18650s and some 18650s salvaged from an old laptop battery and it worked well with all three battery types
      • There is an entrance to 12V (but no 12V adaptor) ( ? )
  • TrustFire TR002 Lithium Battery Charger for 10440/14500/17670/18500/18650 (dealextreme, $7.92)
    • similar to TR-001 but for single battery only
  • Single 18650/17670 Lith.Batt. Charger (1A Current) (dealextreme, $5.95) , US plug
    • Output: DC 4.2V 1A
    • From reviews:
      • Works great on both protected and unprotected 18650 battery cell
      • Led indicate when battery is fully charged
      • Not really 1A but maybe it's better so battery don't become too hot
  • Nano Li-Ion Single 3.6V CR123A Charger (dealextreme, $4.92)
    • Output: DC 4.2V 450mA
    • Looks identical to the native screwdriver charger

USB Devices

Mods

Review of Battery Mods

Indulgence

problems

Screwdriver

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DISCUSSIONS

  • Gruppa "otvertka Screwdriver"
  • topic Kto zdes' delal zakaz totallywicked-eliquid.co.uk
    • 10.11.2010 20:16 Ilyich: po oshibke sdelal zakaz iz US, snapshot
      • postage and package : Rest of the world : $24.99
      • sm., kuda nado vvodit' "promotional code" (kod skidki)
    • 26.11.2010 16:38 andyivvs:
      pyatnichnaya skidka (SD-full + 901->510 conversion):
      • 69,99 -> 52,49 i.e. 25% ! ("black friday" -- before Christmas)
    • 27.11.2010 23:27 -Григорий- :
      black luchche blestyaschej: ne markaya, ne carapaetsya
    • 25.04.2011 13:27 Sanya777: Poshagovaya procedura zakaza More... Close
      Sanya777 13:27 25.04.2011
      Zdravstvujte. Hochu zakazat' el. sigaretu na sajte totallywicked.
      ZHivu v Ukraine g Donetsk. Esli ne tyazhelo, opishite, pozhalujsta, poshagovo, kak
      zakazat' tovar. Tovar prijd£t na pochtovoe otdelenie, s ukazanym mnoyu indeksom???
      Spasibo
      
      asdfg2 16:54 25.04.2011
       - ubedit'sya, chto sejchas oni otpravlyayut na Ukrainu (osobenno amerikanskij totali)
       - zaimet' bankovskuyu kartu
       - zaimet' pejpal (optsional'no)
       - zaregistrirovat'sya na totali
       - zapolnit' pravil'no adres v profile
       - vybrat' tovar v korzinu.
       - perejti v korzinu
       - vvesti kupon (promokod) na skidku
       - chekautit' korzinu (tipa oformlyat' zakaz)
       - vybrat' samuyu doroguyu dostavku Rest of the world - 16.99 funtov
       - vybrat' sposob oplaty, oplatit' (odnazhdy mne ne udavalos' oplatit' pejpalom,
         prishlos' platit' cherez servis Nochex)
      
      posylka pridet v to otdelenie, indeks kotorogo Vy ukazhete. Esli etot indeks ne
      sootvetstvuet adresu, to proizojdet dosylka v otdelenie, obsluzhivayuschee adres.
      Luchshe ne oshibat'sya v indekse.
              
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  • Chto dokupit' v komplekt k otvertke? (answer by DrakeRulo)
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cvet spirali v zavisimosti ot temperatury prozhiga

Cartomizers

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Pobochnye effekty

Prigotovlenie zhizhi

Voda

  • Dobavlyat' li vodu...?
    • apteki: voda dlya in'ekcij 5ml x 10 = 50ml : ~20rub
    • kryshka ot kastryuli pered nosikom chajnika: 10ml za neskol'ko min

Calculators

Aptechnyj VG : primes' AD?

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aptechnyj glicerin: plotnost' deklariruetsya v diapazone 1.223-1.233
                    puzyr' 25g => V =  ~25/1.228 ml = 20.3ml

massovaya dolya glicerina (f) i plotnnost' (d) smesi glicerin+voda:

d_tabl f/%    d_formula  d_tabl-d_formula
1.221  85     1.213       0.008
1.235  90     1.229       0.006
1.261 100     1.261

tablica: http://www.cniga.com.ua/index.files/glycerol.htm
formula: d = d_g / (d_g/d_w - f * (d_g/d_w - 1))
                          (indeksy g,w : glicerin,water)

=> ob'em r-ra men'she, chem summa ob'emov komponentov

f = (d_g/d_w - d_g/d) / (d_g/d_w - 1)

Plotnost' 1.223-1.233 = 1.228+-.005 sootvetstvuet "formul'nym" 1.215 - 1.227
=> f = 85.5 - 89.4 %  = 87.45 +- 1.95 %, 
   +-------------------------+
     Budem schitat'  f = 87%    => 1ml soderzhit .13 AD + .87 VG (po vesu)
   +-------------------------+

Ob"emnaya dolya vody = (d/d_w) * (1 - f) =
from 1.223*(1-.855) to 1.233*(1-.894) = 0.1773-0.131 = 17.7-13.1 % (= 15.4+-2.3)

Moi zamesy

Razvedenie 100 PG (+aptecn.VG) -> 36 traditional

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Usloviya:
  - traditional ponimaem kak vse krome Ni v sootnoshenii (po ob'emu!)
            PG:VG:AD = 55:35:10
  - Polagaem, chto aptechnyj VG soderzhit vody 13% (vmesto 15.4 +- 2.3 %).

dolya bazy dolzhna byt' 36/100 = .360 = .036 N + 0.324 PG
vse, krome nikotina: 1-.036 = 0.964 = 0.530 PG + .337 VG + 0.096 AD
Chistogo PG nado dobavit' 0.530 - 0.324 = 0.206
Aptechnogo VG nado dobavit' .337/.87 = .387
Aptechnyj VG budet soderzhat AD .387*.13 = 0.050
Chistoj AD nado dobavit'  0.096-0.050 = 0.046

Itogo:
baza   0.360  5.4   10.8
PG     0.206  3.09   6.18
Apt.VG 0.387  5.81  11.62
AD     0.046  0.69   1.38

       0.999 15.    29.98

Prigotovlenie Traditional 0mg iz Apt.VG

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Usloviya:
  - traditional ponimaem kak  smes' v sootnoshenii (po ob'emu!)
            PG:VG:AD = 55:35:10
  - Polagaem, chto aptechnyj VG soderzhit vody 13% (vmesto 15.4 +- 2.3 %).


PG :                .550
Apt.VG : .35/.87 = 0.402 :    soderzhit AD  0.402*.13 = 0.052
AD : .1- 0.052 =   0.048

Itogo 
PG     0.550 24.75
Apt.VG 0.402 18.09
AD     0.048  2.16

       1.000 45.00

Razvedenie 100mg PG (+ pure VG) -> 36mg traditional

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Razvedenie 100mg PG (+ pure VG) -> 36mg traditional
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Usloviya:
  - traditional ponimaem kak vse krome Ni v sootnoshenii (po ob'emu!)
            PG:VG:AD = 55:35:10

dolya bazy dolzhna byt' 36/100 = .360 = .036 N + 0.324 PG
vse, krome nikotina: 1-.036 = 0.964 = 0.530 PG + .337 VG + 0.096 AD
Chistogo PG nado dobavit' 0.530 - 0.324 = 0.206
Chistogo VG nado dobavit'                 0.337
Chistoj AD nado dobavit'                  0.096

Itogo:
baza   0.360  5.4   10.8
PG     0.206  3.09   6.18
VG     0.337  5.06  10.12
AD     0.096  1.44   2.88

       0.999 14.99  29.98

Prigotovlenie 0mg Traditional iz pure VG

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Prigotovlenie 0mg Traditional iz pure VG
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Usloviya:
  - traditional ponimaem kak  smes' v sootnoshenii (po ob'emu!)
            PG:VG:AD = 55:35:10

Itogo 
PG     0.550 24.75
VG     0.350 15.75
AD     0.100  4.5

       1.000 45.00

Razvedenie 100mg PG (+ pure VG) -> 10mg traditional

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Razvedenie 100mg PG (+ pure VG) -> 10mg traditional
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Usloviya:
  - traditional ponimaem kak vse krome Ni v sootnoshenii (po ob'emu!)
            PG:VG:AD = 55:35:10
T.e. hotim imet'
    0.01 NI + 0.99 *( .55 PG + .35 VG + 0.1 AD) = 
  = 0.1 (.1 NI + .9 PG) - .09 PG +  0.99 *( .55 PG + .35 VG + 0.1 AD) =
  = 0.1 (100mg PG) + (.99*.55 - .09) PG + .99*.35 VG + .099 AD =
  = 0.1 (100mg PG) + 0.4545 PG + 0.3465 VG + .099 AD

Itogo:
baza   0.1000   50.00
PG     0.4545  227.25
VG     0.3465  173.25
AD     0.0990   49.50

       1.      500.00

Razvedenie 100mg PG (+ pure VG) -> 8mg traditional

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Razvedenie 100mg PG (+ pure VG) -> 8mg traditional
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Usloviya:
  - traditional ponimaem kak vse krome Ni v sootnoshenii (po ob'emu!)
            PG:VG:AD = 55:35:10
T.e. hotim imet'
    0.008 NI + 0.992 *( .55 PG + .35 VG + 0.1 AD) = 
  = 0.08 (.1 NI + .9 PG) - .072 PG +  0.992 *( .55 PG + .35 VG + 0.1 AD) =
  = 0.08 (100mg PG) + (.992*.55 - .072) PG + .992*.35 VG + .0992 AD =
  = 0.08 (100mg PG) + 0.4736 PG + 0.3472 VG + .0992 AD


Itogo:
       volume         density  mass/g m(510mL) m(1020mL)
baza   0.0800   40.00 ~1.0363  0.0829  42.28    84.56
PG     0.4736  236.80  1.0363  0.4908 250.31   500.62
VG     0.3472  173.60  1.261   0.4378 223.28   446.56
AD     0.0992   49.60  1.      0.0992  50.59   101.18

       1.      500.00          1.1107 566.46  1132.91

plotnost' smesi (.08+.4736)*1.0363 +0.3472*1.261 +.0992 = 1.1107

Razvedenie 100mg PG (+ pure VG) -> 5mg traditional

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Razvedenie 100mg PG (+ pure VG) -> 5mg traditional
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Usloviya:
  - traditional ponimaem kak vse krome Ni v sootnoshenii (po ob'emu!)
            PG:VG:AD = 55:35:10
T.e. hotim imet'
    0.005 NI + 0.995 *( .55 PG + .35 VG + 0.1 AD) = 
  = 0.05 (.1 NI + .9 PG) - .045 PG +  0.995 *( .55 PG + .35 VG + 0.1 AD) =
  = 0.05 (100mg PG) + (.995*.55 - .045) PG + .995*.35 VG + .0995 AD =
  = 0.05 (100mg PG) + 0.5023 PG + 0.3483 VG + .0995 AD


Itogo:
       volume         density  mass/g m(510mL) m(1020mL)
                              =m(1mL)
baza   0.0500   25.00 ~1.0363  0.0518  26.42    52.84
PG     0.5023  251.15  1.0363  0.5205 265.46   530.91
VG     0.3483  174.15  1.261   0.4392 223.99   447.98
AD     0.0995   49.75  1.      0.0995  50.75   101.49

       1.0001  500.00          1.1110 566.62  1133.22

plotnost' smesi (.05+.5023)*1.0363 +0.3483*1.261 +.0995 = 1.1110


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